A truly noxious bill

This is really ugly stuff. The Bushies want the ability to imprison anyone, including citizens, indefinitely. Such prisoners would have no access to civilian courts and their rights would be hugely restricted. The government does not need to produce actual evidence either. Nope, just a governmental say-so that you might be linked to “terrorism.” and off you go into a Gitmo forever. This is blatantly unconstitutional. an obvious attack against dissent, and should concern everyone.
AMERICAblog has been blogging about this. Haven’t seen it on many other blogs as yet (it’s still a new story.) This bill is so fascist that everyone needs to mobilize against it. Me, you, everyone.

I don’t often use the word “fascist.” In this case though, it applies. A bill like this targets everyone. The target is the Left now. It could just as easily be the Right under another administration. No, I do not believe it would only be used against actual terrorists. Plus, it gives the government way too much easily abused power to silence those who disagree with them.

Bush submits new terror detainee bill
U.S. citizens suspected of terror ties might be detained indefinitely and barred from access to civilian courts under legislation proposed by the Bush administration, say legal experts reviewing an early version of the bill.

White House proposal would expand authority of military courts
Under the proposed procedures, defendants would lack rights to confront accusers, exclude hearsay accusations, or bar evidence obtained through rough or coercive interrogations. They would not be guaranteed a public or speedy trial and would lack the right to choose their military counsel, who in turn would not be guaranteed equal access to evidence held by prosecutors.

An early draft of the new measure prepared by civilian political appointees and leaked to the media last week has been modified in response to criticism from uniformed military lawyers. But the provisions allowing a future expansion of the courts to cover new crimes and more prisoners were retained, according to government officials familiar with the deliberations.

Let’s ALL work together to make sure this repressive freedom-hating bill gets killed, and quickly.


  1. Great informative post, Comrade! Keep up the great work!! I will be adding a link to you from my blog, The Sappho Manifesto, if ya dont mind? You have a great site here, which should be viewed by all!
    Your reporting on the LAPD beating of us anti-MinuteKlan protesters was indepth & great!
    In solidarity,

  2. Daniel Rivera-Franqui

    The administration’s proposal, as considered at one point during discussions, would toss out several legal rights common in civilian and military courts, including barring hearsay evidence, guaranteeing “speedy trials” and granting a defendant access to evidence. The proposal also would allow defendants to be barred from their own trial and likely allow the submission of coerced testimony.

    WTF? This alarms me the most. They can imprision anyone, accuse them of terrorism, drug trafficking, the JFK assasination and, knowing this administration, they’ll even consider homosexuality as a crime and the accused cannot even say A WORD in their defense? They’ll take you to a cell and just let you rot in there without offering an explanation, you might even be convicted and you won’t know sh*t?

    Now who drafts this kind of bills? I mean, are they reading the Nazi Government Handbook? I’m not exaggerating, this is really maddening. Whatever Freedom this government purports or whatever this “administration’s” criticism of Saddam’s regime (which I despised just as well) is null. Really, who comes up with sh*t like this????

  3. Sappho. I read your sire often. Thx for the link!

    Daniel. At heart I think it’s a Rove ploy to enrage the hard right into voting by showing how the Democrats love terrorism.

    Not that they wouldn’t like to have it passed…

    The bill needs to be stopped.

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  5. Good and timely post. I’ve been a longtime reader, but only recent contributor to the blogosphere, and while my newest post is on this very topic, I don’t have anywhere near the readership you do. (I’m up to about 3 people I think!)

    In any case (enough blogwhoring, no matter how reasonably discrete) this is potentially one of the most important issues to confront us under the Bush Administration, and people of EVERY political stripe should be both wholly concerned and totally pissed off. Write your congressman, write your senators, and then CALL them too. Even though this bill is extreme enough to be gutted by the courts, that could take years, and somebody or somebodies will have to have their lives chewed up to make that occur, and then we’d still have to be lucky.


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