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	<title>Comments on: Fuel cells</title>
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	<description>Musings on politics: anti-war, global warming, peak oil and otherwise</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://polizeros.com/2008/01/20/fuel-cells/#comment-153219</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually one of the few blogs that I want to keep up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually one of the few blogs that I want to keep up with.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://polizeros.com/2008/01/20/fuel-cells/#comment-147767</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea Jim Morrison was a physicist!  

H2 is often seen as a way to capture energy that would otherwise be wasted-- such as unused solar or wind.  (Wind turbines require a "dump load" to prevent burnout if demand drops; often just an outdoor heating element, the dump load could surely be put to better use.)

Oil refineries burn off plenty of H2 in their flares-- a byproduct of hydrocarbon cracking.  This, too, could be put to far better use.

Recent articles have also reported favorsbly on research to use anaerobic bacteria to prodice H2 from organic materials.

I think Bob is right in that what we NEED is a broad base of various micro-power sources.  Those of us in a position to generate our own will do just that.  But the increasing size of corporations is likely to oppose it on a larger scale: it's just too hard to do business that way.  I see two obvious possible results: (1) micro gets stamped out by global corporations, or (2) local businesses dominate energy production.  The realm of possibilities between them is vast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea Jim Morrison was a physicist!  </p>
<p>H2 is often seen as a way to capture energy that would otherwise be wasted&#8211; such as unused solar or wind.  (Wind turbines require a &#8220;dump load&#8221; to prevent burnout if demand drops; often just an outdoor heating element, the dump load could surely be put to better use.)</p>
<p>Oil refineries burn off plenty of H2 in their flares&#8211; a byproduct of hydrocarbon cracking.  This, too, could be put to far better use.</p>
<p>Recent articles have also reported favorsbly on research to use anaerobic bacteria to prodice H2 from organic materials.</p>
<p>I think Bob is right in that what we NEED is a broad base of various micro-power sources.  Those of us in a position to generate our own will do just that.  But the increasing size of corporations is likely to oppose it on a larger scale: it&#8217;s just too hard to do business that way.  I see two obvious possible results: (1) micro gets stamped out by global corporations, or (2) local businesses dominate energy production.  The realm of possibilities between them is vast.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Morris</title>
		<link>http://polizeros.com/2008/01/20/fuel-cells/#comment-147765</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a plan in Denmark to run fuel cell railroads of waste hydrogen from manufacturing as well as hydrogen from wind power.

I think we're moving to an era where power comes from a multitude of method and paths, and much more of amicro-power situations, rather than just bulk power from a few sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a plan in Denmark to run fuel cell railroads of waste hydrogen from manufacturing as well as hydrogen from wind power.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re moving to an era where power comes from a multitude of method and paths, and much more of amicro-power situations, rather than just bulk power from a few sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hartley</title>
		<link>http://polizeros.com/2008/01/20/fuel-cells/#comment-147762</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Hartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other major questions is, where do you get the hydrogen from in the first place? Usually by electrolysis of water, which itself requires energy. As the third law of thermodynamics is sometimes restated, nobody here gets out alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other major questions is, where do you get the hydrogen from in the first place? Usually by electrolysis of water, which itself requires energy. As the third law of thermodynamics is sometimes restated, nobody here gets out alive.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://polizeros.com/2008/01/20/fuel-cells/#comment-147760</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think fuel cells show great potential-- I've even cosidered getting one for our homestead.  But efficiency is a challenge.  I posted some time back about a hydrogen-powered house; the main drawback is, going from electricity to H2 and back is currently only 50% efficient.  That means the energy costs twice as much.  I think this hurdle can be overcome, but at the moment, it's a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think fuel cells show great potential&#8211; I&#8217;ve even cosidered getting one for our homestead.  But efficiency is a challenge.  I posted some time back about a hydrogen-powered house; the main drawback is, going from electricity to H2 and back is currently only 50% efficient.  That means the energy costs twice as much.  I think this hurdle can be overcome, but at the moment, it&#8217;s a problem.</p>
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